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Post by maryellen on Mar 29, 2019 16:13:18 GMT -5
Cooper hawks are smaller then red tails. This red tail flew back into the pine trees, but you could be right, it could be an adolescent..
Yeah we have eagles nesting at the nearby lake, so we sometimes see them. This is the 2nd time ive seen a young one and ive seen an adult fly in front of my truck twice
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Post by maryellen on Mar 29, 2019 16:15:01 GMT -5
I had a video of one scooping up roadkill in the road i was driving on by the airport too
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Post by Sylie on Mar 29, 2019 22:01:52 GMT -5
We have tons of crows around here (Iowa...corn fields as far as the eye can see). Maybe that's why I haven't had any predator problems. *cross fingers and knock on wood*
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Post by maryellen on Apr 4, 2019 16:25:36 GMT -5
Today a red tail hawk got Louise. It was carrying her away when Bill went outside by chance. He chased after the hawk and the hawk dropped louise, then swung around to grab her again and bill grabbed her.. she is pretty shook up, i have her in my kitchen watching her. I checked her over and dont see any blood or puncture wounds, so thats good. She will stay in until i feel she will recover.  |
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Post by Sylie on Apr 5, 2019 0:06:03 GMT -5
Holy cow ME! I hope she isn't too traumatized! She is so beautiful, I'm glad that she wasn't physically injured. Watch for internal injury signs from the fall though.
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Post by dawg53 on Apr 5, 2019 3:53:57 GMT -5
Thank goodness your husband was at the right place at the right time to get Louise. How did the hawk get your hen, wasnt she penned up?
How is Louise doing? Questions questions.
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Post by maryellen on Apr 5, 2019 7:22:41 GMT -5
Dawg i let everyone out yesterday, the hawk wasnt around for a few days so figured it was ok. I was outside then had to go back to work. 15 min later bill runs inside with her and tells me what happened.
She so far is ok, no cuts or punctures or blood, the next few days will tell if there are any internal injuries. She was breathing hard and raspy, so im not sure if there is lung damage. She is doing good now, eating and drinking. They all want back out which isnt happening at all..
If he didnt go out to work on the goat pen the hawk would have taken her away.
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Post by seminolewind on Apr 5, 2019 9:57:14 GMT -5
That's awful! And to try again when Bill was there. Poor Louise! Hope she's okay.
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Post by maryellen on Apr 5, 2019 17:37:03 GMT -5
She is good so far. Im keeping an eye on her. She is eating good
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Post by dawg53 on Apr 5, 2019 19:26:53 GMT -5
Put your ear up to her side and listen for a "whistling" noise. If you hear it, it's a punctured or ruptured air sac.
The way you describe her condition, it sounds like she is one lucky little bird!
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Post by maryellen on Apr 5, 2019 21:12:16 GMT -5
Dawg she did have a raspy breathing noise after the attack. I was hoping she didnt have internal injuries but i know its a possibility. If she does have internal injuries there is not much i can do except bring her in the house. What wlse can i do?
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Post by Sylie on Apr 6, 2019 0:13:19 GMT -5
Is she still having the raspy breathing? Maybe Dawg knows something I don't but in my experience with wild animals (I'm a wildlife rehabber), there isn't anything you can do. I have a stethescope so it's easier to hear what's going on inside. If you hear whistling, raspy noises or what sounds like water bubbles in her chest and/or back, it's likely internal bleeding but if that were the case, she would be going downhill and you would know already. It doesn't take long for internal bleeding to get them. My daughter found a young cardinal last year, both of it's legs were broken and I suspect her back as well, she fell out of her nest during a bad storm in the early morning hours, from the end of the storm to when she passed away was about 8 hours more or less. The time would be different for a larger bird (larger than a cardinal I mean) but she would be lethargic and refusing food and water.
If I'm off base here, please let me know so I can learn, my comments are based on wild animals. I've also had an infant squirrel that fell from it's nest, when my dog found it (he was so sweet and gentle with it when he got it out of the brush) the squirrel was acting normally for it's age (hairless, eyes closed and sleepy but responded when I touched it and also responded to warmth) he quickly became unresponsive and passed after 2 hours. My point here is that it's different for different kinds of animals so chickens may be different in how they react and how long it would take. I'm not trying to be morbid, just letting you know that if she is acting okay and you don't hear the raspy breathing anymore, she could be fine.
IN the picture you posted just after the incident, she looks alert, she is on her feet, I think that's a good sign, you said she was eating, is she still?
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Post by dawg53 on Apr 6, 2019 5:51:06 GMT -5
Dawg she did have a raspy breathing noise after the attack. I was hoping she didnt have internal injuries but i know its a possibility. If she does have internal injuries there is not much i can do except bring her in the house. What wlse can i do? There's nothing you can do for air sac punctures or ruptures, or internal injuries. If there was internal bleeding it would show in feces, black or very dark red feces. As long as she is eating and drinking normally, and acting like a chicken should, she'll recover nicely.  |
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Post by seminolewind on Apr 6, 2019 10:25:17 GMT -5
I mostly look at things this way. If every day she appears to be a little better, good. If worse, not good. I think her eating and drinking is good. So is not gasping. If she aspirated it would take several days to clear. Watch out for pneumonia. If it's physical, it may take a while to improve. Poor baby!
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Post by maryellen on Apr 6, 2019 11:17:40 GMT -5
It took her 5 hours to finally eat after the attack. Took her that long too to walk around the cage, she stood in one spot when i put her in the cage and didnt move for the 5 hours.
The raspy noise is gone, i listened to her chest last night. Her poop is good now, and she is acting normal so she didnt get any serious internal injuries. I figured if she did she would have died by now. Some of my birds were really shaken up, but the rest want out of the run which isnt happening unless im standing out there
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Post by maryellen on Apr 6, 2019 11:18:31 GMT -5
Bill is going to check the security cameras to see if any of it was caught on video
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Post by dawg53 on Apr 6, 2019 17:28:46 GMT -5
ME. That's really good news.
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Post by Sylie on Apr 6, 2019 22:39:40 GMT -5
That's great to hear, I'm so happy that she's okay!
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Post by maryellen on Apr 7, 2019 7:39:07 GMT -5
She is good so im out of the woods about worrying. All the hens want out which is nuts. I guess they dont remember? Even the night it happened they wanted back out.
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Post by seminolewind on Apr 7, 2019 10:07:38 GMT -5
Great! Those hawks are so bold!
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