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Post by maryellen on Oct 27, 2018 22:23:25 GMT -5
Does coryza have a smell? I have 2 pullets in the house and they have a distinct smell to them. ( like parvo in dogs has a distinct metal smell)
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Coryza
Oct 28, 2018 4:12:42 GMT -5
Post by dawg53 on Oct 28, 2018 4:12:42 GMT -5
Coryza has a foul odor that'll make you gag.
It'll be accompanied by facial swelling, watery eyes/nostrils, sneezing and wheezing.
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Coryza
Oct 28, 2018 9:47:17 GMT -5
Post by seminolewind on Oct 28, 2018 9:47:17 GMT -5
Ewww. Is Coryza one of those "carrier for life" illnesses?
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Post by maryellen on Oct 28, 2018 14:19:02 GMT -5
Ok i have gross smell, a bit of sneezing, definitely wheezing, mucus coming out of mouths
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Post by maryellen on Oct 28, 2018 14:20:30 GMT -5
Its hitting my black bredas. I now have 4 that are off. 3 pullets and a cockeral
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Post by maryellen on Oct 28, 2018 15:29:43 GMT -5
Ive lost 6 ees to whatever this is a few months ago. Its hitting the juvenile bredas hard. My other older birds are fine except one australorp
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Coryza
Oct 28, 2018 17:05:39 GMT -5
Post by dawg53 on Oct 28, 2018 17:05:39 GMT -5
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Coryza
Oct 28, 2018 17:12:38 GMT -5
Post by dawg53 on Oct 28, 2018 17:12:38 GMT -5
Ok i have gross smell, a bit of sneezing, definitely wheezing, mucus coming out of mouths I'm sorry you're going through this ME. Treatment is a sulfa drug such as sulfadimethoxine in conjunction with tylan or baytril. You'll need a prescription for sulfadimethoxine and baytril, no script needed for tylan. Personally I'd cull. But I know you'll want to treat them.  |
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Post by maryellen on Oct 28, 2018 20:46:54 GMT -5
I culled the sick ones. I tried the sulfa drugs and then culled more.
Im down to 20 chickens now. Ill be culling the 4 sick ones this week. I cant cull them all at once its to much on me, so im doing it in increments.
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Post by maryellen on Oct 28, 2018 20:55:51 GMT -5
Once i have no more birds im cleaning out the coop, soaking with oxine then virkon, soaking everything, throwing away all feeders and waterers and leaving the coop empty for a few months. Then when i think its safe im going to buy chicks from a hatchery and start over. Ill make sure i get at least 2 roosters in my order to breed my own new flock. Im going to do easter eggers and a few brahmas and favorelles.i will not buy from anyone again and will just hatch my own . . I learned a hard valuable lesson unfortunately. My birds were fine until i added the bredas from the breda breeder in south nj, and im pretty positive that henrietta and her sister who i got from her as well brought something into my flock. . It is what it is and i was hoping that it wasnt so but it is. . Ill recover , and start over. |
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Post by dawg53 on Oct 29, 2018 4:53:42 GMT -5
It's tough to cull birds. Some folks refuse to do it and will try to help them. But birds are a different ballgame, they arnt mammals which can be treated and cured. Some folks just dont realize that. Also if folks necropsied a sick bird, they would see the terrible damage what the disease is doing to the organs etc...then they would cull the other sick ones to put them out of their misery without question.
You're doing the right thing ME.
I have a question for you: Didnt you mention a while back that some of your birds have Marek's disease? If so, and I'm not sure about this because I'm not an expert on the disease like Karen. I think the soil will be contaminated with the virus for a long time. So, when you put new hatchery birds on the soil, they become infected with Marek's. I dont know if you should get them vaccinated at the hatchery or not and I dont know if there are different strains. I hope I'm wrong, better check with Karen.
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Post by maryellen on Oct 29, 2018 7:02:37 GMT -5
The state tested and some of the original bredas tested for mareks, the breeder said she vaccinated for it cause she showed, so i dont know. 55 my blind hen came from a different breeder who shows and tested positive for mareks, he said he vaccinated too as he shows all over.
Only blood and saliva tests were done. Basic testing by the state.
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Coryza
Oct 29, 2018 7:10:23 GMT -5
Post by boskelli1571 on Oct 29, 2018 7:10:23 GMT -5
The state tested and some of the original bredas tested for mareks, the breeder said she vaccinated for it cause she showed, so i dont know. 55 my blind hen came from a different breeder who shows and tested positive for mareks, he said he vaccinated too as he shows all over. Only blood and saliva tests were done. Basic testing by the state. I believe there are different strains of Mareks - so if you vaccinate against strain A & B, they could still get strain C. Also, with it being a virus, they can mutate pretty quickly. |
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Post by maryellen on Oct 29, 2018 8:34:49 GMT -5
Yes there is 9 strains i think, so even if i treated the entire yard im screwed:(
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Post by maryellen on Oct 29, 2018 8:40:10 GMT -5
Im not going to sell anymore, just breed for myself . Just make pretty birds that lay colored eggs.
Im beyond pissed that this breda breeder loveed me so badly. Im stilll seething over it. She completely screwed me selling me those sick birds. She sold to other people as well including an apa judge in pa. I dont know if anyone else has issues . I should have never bought from.her. should have just kept my legbars and birds i hatched as my.flock was clean then. I just got so excited to get involved with the bredas as they are so rare.
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Post by dawg53 on Oct 29, 2018 13:25:52 GMT -5
I've been reading that Marek's can stay in the soil from 5 months for several years or even longer. I guess you'd have get your new chicks vaccinated ME. I wonder if keeping them away from the "hot areas" caged up off soil, raised on wire would work for you? Chickens are very adaptable and forgiving.
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Post by maryellen on Oct 29, 2018 19:58:15 GMT -5
I cant do that, cant keep them off the soil. They roamed the whole acre.  |
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Coryza
Oct 30, 2018 1:27:56 GMT -5
Post by dawg53 on Oct 30, 2018 1:27:56 GMT -5
I cant do that, cant keep them off the soil. They roamed the whole acre. I was referring to the new hatchery chicks, after they're grown some (whenever you get them.) |
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Coryza
Oct 30, 2018 2:00:12 GMT -5
Post by seminolewind on Oct 30, 2018 2:00:12 GMT -5
The strains are based on virulity. Strong, stronger , strongest.
I'm sorry it's so sad to have to let them go. I was there some years back.
I know Marek's kills their immune system. Even against coccidiosis. So if they have an ailment, it gets bad. That's why I throw everything i've got at them when one is sick.
If it were me, I would be sure to vaccinate all your future chicks for Marek's. And yes it can live for a long time. It's hard to know what to do because I feel you've been hit with a double whammy. I wish I could make it better for you. I hope hatchery chicks can be vaccinated for all they have gotten so far.
Hugs!
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Post by boskelli1571 on Oct 30, 2018 5:24:55 GMT -5
Im not going to sell anymore, just breed for myself . Just make pretty birds that lay colored eggs. Im beyond pissed that this breda breeder loveed me so badly. Im stilll seething over it. She completely screwed me selling me those sick birds. She sold to other people as well including an apa judge in pa. I dont know if anyone else has issues . I should have never bought from.her. should have just kept my legbars and birds i hatched as my.flock was clean then. I just got so excited to get involved with the bredas as they are so rare. So this is part of why I don't think NPIP is so great. If you raise rare birds that are prone to 'disease X', why would you not test for that in your flock? Between Mareks and LL the breeder should know that their stock is possibly carrying - same with Waltzs'. I think Mareks and LL should be mandatory since the affected birds will die, that would save some folks a lot of money.
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