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Post by seminolewind on Aug 9, 2018 12:41:03 GMT -5
Yea I think the weather does make their feet soft. She has another one but it's small so it can wait. I have another Polish that has a bubble on top and a pin dot scab on the bottom so I think I'll just slit the bubble on top open, and wrap it. That should do it for now. I hate doing this.
Sorry your's has pain.
I have a 12 pound older Jersey that has bumbles on her massive feet but laying her on her side will kill her since she has breathing problems to begin with. They don't seem to bother her. I've seen them there for a few years.
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Post by seminolewind on Aug 11, 2018 11:16:38 GMT -5
So I re wrapped her foot and it looks good. However it looks like a bumble or two are on the topside so that may require something different. I should just have a bumble night where I do them all.
Does anyone make up Dakin's solution? Sounds like homemade vetricyn.
I did use wonder dust on this one . It stops the bleeding and kills bad bacteria.
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Post by Sylie on Aug 11, 2018 21:19:53 GMT -5
Dakin's is just watered down bleach, literally. I don't like it myself for that reason. You'd do better with iodine or Hibiclens.
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Post by dawg53 on Aug 12, 2018 4:21:07 GMT -5
Iodine is very good. I use betadine.
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Post by boskelli1571 on Aug 12, 2018 8:07:29 GMT -5
So I re wrapped her foot and it looks good. However it looks like a bumble or two are on the topside so that may require something different. I should just have a bumble night where I do them all. Does anyone make up Dakin's solution? Sounds like homemade vetricyn. I did use wonder dust on this one . It stops the bleeding and kills bad bacteria. Dakins is terrible on the skin. They used to use it in hospital until they studied the 'healing' effect - worse than doing nothing, it destroys fragile tissue. |
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Post by seminolewind on Aug 12, 2018 11:03:07 GMT -5
I didn't think that Clorox would be good on the skin. A lot of people use that Vetrycin which I believe is the same thing.
I take a tooth brush and betadine and scrub the foot first.
This time I coated the wound with Wonder dust which I like a lot. It also stops the bleeding.
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Post by chickenlady on Aug 27, 2018 8:29:57 GMT -5
I had a hen with a really bad bumble foot she was one of the ones I took in so she came with it. It was really bad it basically went all the way through her foot from the bottom to the top. I tried all the traditional ways of getting rid of it that I had read about and kept trying to dig out all the hard puss. I didn’t feel like it was improving so I started looking on nursing websites how to treat necrotic wounds. I went and got some burn pads that are moist, curad silver solution and some wound wash. I flushed it dried it and started using Curad silver solution and cut the burn pad in half so it a smaller little piece. Put that burn pad over the silver solution and then wrapped it.
The burn pad keeps the wound moist then dries it so when your take it off it does a little debridement each time. I did this every other day and within a few more weeks it completely dried it up so much I was able to peel it completely off. She did lose the webbing between her toes but that bumble foot was gone she was like a new chicken.
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Post by seminolewind on Aug 27, 2018 12:03:10 GMT -5
Chickenlady that's great! I think your method sounds good by keeping the bumble moist and debrides.
I have just been planning a new approach to mine. I have 5 year old Polish that got bumblefoots with all this rain. Three got better on their own. One was big and that ended up being cut open and a yellow plug removed. The other one got a gauze drenched in Epsom salts and wrapped around her foot over night. 2 nights and out of 2 big boils on top, one is gone and the other has shrunk. So now with the first Polish, the other foot looks kinda puffy so I will wrap her feet for a few nights and see what happens. I also have been considering adding an injection of pen G for 3 days. I hate cutting into a scab because I feel it's there for a reason.
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 1, 2018 19:48:50 GMT -5
SOSOSO gross!!!! After soaking for a few days I set up to do the nasty deed. It was a smaller than pea size bubble on top between the toes. I made a slit and out popped not one but 4 nasty kernals. Afterwards I washed her foot all off, dried it and sprinkled with Wonder Dust.
I am trying Wonder Dust because years ago my horse had a deep gash that couldn't be covered with a bandage that would stay and she was in the dirt. So she got the wound washed with soap and water every day and sprayed with Wonder dust. It healed very nicely from the inside out. So, Wonder Dust has anti bacterial qualities and stops bleeding and coats the wound with powder so dirt can't get in the wound. So I'll update the wonder of wonder dust.
I have a bumble patient from a few weeks ago, a bumble patient from tonight, and a silkie roo who has had problems with stick tight fleas and scratched the feathers off his head. He's had a swollen face and swollen eyes. It's hard to distinguish what a silkie with a swollen face looks like. All 3 got a PenicillinG shot tonight and for the next 2 nights because I feel they all suffer from staph.
Staph can best be treated with Penicillin G, Lincomycin, Spectomycin, and Amoxicillin I believe. Anything I have here would not touch it. Or fight it poorly (Tylan, sulfadimethoxine). Many ailments are hit and miss, but if you do your reading, you can raise your chances of getting the right one.
I don't really agree with medicating. However, if they will die, I have nothing to lose by treating. Or see a vet, which I do on occasion depending on whether the chicken can survive with the right treatment and I don't know what the right treatment is.
Honestly, many people can not afford to take a chicken to the vet. It's $40 to walk in the door. It's great if you find a good one (like me) that can give you a break on the price of things. It never hurts to ask. I think my vet enjoys being a country vet .
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 1, 2018 21:30:05 GMT -5
Karen. Where did you get your sulfdimethoxine? I'd like to order some.
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Post by boskelli1571 on Sept 2, 2018 5:01:50 GMT -5
SOSOSO gross!!!! After soaking for a few days I set up to do the nasty deed. It was a smaller than pea size bubble on top between the toes. I made a slit and out popped not one but 4 nasty kernals. Afterwards I washed her foot all off, dried it and sprinkled with Wonder Dust. I am trying Wonder Dust because years ago my horse had a deep gash that couldn't be covered with a bandage that would stay and she was in the dirt. So she got the wound washed with soap and water every day and sprayed with Wonder dust. It healed very nicely from the inside out. So, Wonder Dust has anti bacterial qualities and stops bleeding and coats the wound with powder so dirt can't get in the wound. So I'll update the wonder of wonder dust. I have a bumble patient from a few weeks ago, a bumble patient from tonight, and a silkie roo who has had problems with stick tight fleas and scratched the feathers off his head. He's had a swollen face and swollen eyes. It's hard to distinguish what a silkie with a swollen face looks like. All 3 got a PenicillinG shot tonight and for the next 2 nights because I feel they all suffer from staph. Staph can best be treated with Penicillin G, Lincomycin, Spectomycin, and Amoxicillin I believe. Anything I have here would not touch it. Or fight it poorly (Tylan, sulfadimethoxine). Many ailments are hit and miss, but if you do your reading, you can raise your chances of getting the right one. I don't really agree with medicating. However, if they will die, I have nothing to lose by treating. Or see a vet, which I do on occasion depending on whether the chicken can survive with the right treatment and I don't know what the right treatment is. Honestly, many people can not afford to take a chicken to the vet. It's $40 to walk in the door. It's great if you find a good one (like me) that can give you a break on the price of things. It never hurts to ask. I think my vet enjoys being a country vet . Sounds like my place - a regular sick bay! I have one rabbit with an infected bite. It took a couple of days to fish all the maggots out, but the wound is starting to heal slowly. I have one chicken with an operated bumble and one I should do very soon - I feel like I'm back at work 
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 2, 2018 12:24:00 GMT -5
SOSOSO gross!!!! After soaking for a few days I set up to do the nasty deed. It was a smaller than pea size bubble on top between the toes. I made a slit and out popped not one but 4 nasty kernals. Afterwards I washed her foot all off, dried it and sprinkled with Wonder Dust. I am trying Wonder Dust because years ago my horse had a deep gash that couldn't be covered with a bandage that would stay and she was in the dirt. So she got the wound washed with soap and water every day and sprayed with Wonder dust. It healed very nicely from the inside out. So, Wonder Dust has anti bacterial qualities and stops bleeding and coats the wound with powder so dirt can't get in the wound. So I'll update the wonder of wonder dust. I have a bumble patient from a few weeks ago, a bumble patient from tonight, and a silkie roo who has had problems with stick tight fleas and scratched the feathers off his head. He's had a swollen face and swollen eyes. It's hard to distinguish what a silkie with a swollen face looks like. All 3 got a PenicillinG shot tonight and for the next 2 nights because I feel they all suffer from staph. Staph can best be treated with Penicillin G, Lincomycin, Spectomycin, and Amoxicillin I believe. Anything I have here would not touch it. Or fight it poorly (Tylan, sulfadimethoxine). Many ailments are hit and miss, but if you do your reading, you can raise your chances of getting the right one. I don't really agree with medicating. However, if they will die, I have nothing to lose by treating. Or see a vet, which I do on occasion depending on whether the chicken can survive with the right treatment and I don't know what the right treatment is. Honestly, many people can not afford to take a chicken to the vet. It's $40 to walk in the door. It's great if you find a good one (like me) that can give you a break on the price of things. It never hurts to ask. I think my vet enjoys being a country vet . Sounds like my place - a regular sick bay! I have one rabbit with an infected bite. It took a couple of days to fish all the maggots out, but the wound is starting to heal slowly. I have one chicken with an operated bumble and one I should do very soon - I feel like I'm back at work
Mmmm Fishing maggots out! Great day!!!- NOT! |
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 2, 2018 18:01:47 GMT -5
Karen and I figured out that it must be all the rain we're getting. The ground is constantly wet or damp and it eventually softens the footpads making it easier for birds to get splinters or infections from injuries. Grrrr.
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 2, 2018 19:35:08 GMT -5
Dawg, Jeffers offer sulfadimethoxine, and also a few other antibiotics
I tried to copy and paste the link but the tablet didn't follow my directions
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 2, 2018 20:12:50 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 3, 2018 13:29:02 GMT -5
Holy cow Karen, that sulfadimethoxine is $92.99 and I know Jeffers charges $6 for shipping. That's expensive for a sulfa drug! They have Sulmet under the name of Sustain 3, aka sulfamethazine for $18.99. Sulfamethazine is harsh on the chickens system, not like sulfadimthoxine. I know there is a 5 day withdrawal period for sulfadimethoxine, 10 days for sulfamethazine. I think I'll stick with the SMZ-TMP.: I found this at QC Supply for a good price but requires a prescription: www.qcsupply.com/sulfadimethoxine-oral-solution-gallon.html |
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 3, 2018 15:42:11 GMT -5
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 3, 2018 15:42:44 GMT -5
Good price
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 3, 2018 16:26:15 GMT -5
It's a good price but I prefer not to do injections.
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 4, 2018 1:53:12 GMT -5
If you got to give a med, you got to give a med. With an injection you know they got it. I feel so much better mixing meds in water, but I'll do injections if I have to. I'm currently looking for 0.5 inch long needles that are 21 or so gauge. 0.5 inch is all you need for an injection without guessing. I do the thigh because the breast scares me.
They get the exact amount and I don't have to worry about a sick chicken drinking enough. I hate giving shots to animals-people I find easy. And the injected chickens don't seem to fear me after. They are just the same and let me pick them up.
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