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Post by seminolewind on Sept 9, 2018 2:46:40 GMT -5
I have 2 Houdans, Psycho, and Psycho's sister. They got themselves a new nice pen built which they seem to like with a big run. Nothing new, same life.
Lately I notice the sister is getting friendly and will take anything to eat out of my hand where she was always the shy one. Anyway, I wonder why their food pot looks likes it's hardly touched. I pick her up and she is scary thin! I can feel my fingers thru her keel. It scared me so bad I went back out there at 10pm and gave her a tube feeding by flashlight. This morning she's ravenous eating hub's cookies. I take her bread and she eats almost the whole piece.
I dump the feed bowl out , refill it, and throw sweet feed on top of it, and a few pieces of bread. I also put the bowl where she'd literally have to trip over it to walk around. It's well in her sight. She walks over and stares but won't eat it. So I replace their white bowl with a blue bowl. Still looks in the bowl and won't eat it. So I take pellets and soak them and put them in a cereal bowl like a wet mash. She eats it like crazy.
What the heck is going on here??? My other 23 chickens have no problem wolfing down the pellets.
I am at a loss.
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 9, 2018 4:42:03 GMT -5
Spoiled.
Seriously though, I know that it could be possibly a sign of coccidia when a chicken looks at food and kind of pecks at the food but wont eat it. Strange that she eats when hand fed though. Given her condition, it wouldnt hurt to give her a round of corid.
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Post by maryellen on Sept 9, 2018 7:05:47 GMT -5
Really dawg? I never knew that. That is good to know. You are super knowledgeable!!
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 10, 2018 6:22:32 GMT -5
NO! ME, I dont know it all about chickens that's for sure lol. Most of what I know is from personal experience.
I've had birds pick their feed and not eat it, particularly in the mornings when they are first let out of the coop...they are supposed to be hungry and thirsty from being cooped up all night and go straight to the feeder and eat, then usually drink and take a good crap. I watch them eating for a minute or so and watch for anything out of the ordinary. I dont do it every day of course, maybe once a week or so.
If one of them pecks at the feed and not hogging it down like the others; picks it up and drops it, or shuffles it around, and doesnt have a full crop afterwards... something is wrong and it's most likely cocci.
However if it isnt eating and yet the crop is full, then it's impacted crop or gizzard.
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Post by chickenlady on Sept 10, 2018 9:35:04 GMT -5
My experience with a bird that was wasting is she developed anorexia where she had a disassociation with food. The vet said anorexia is quite common in birds. I also have a bird that does something similar but it’s because she can’t see very well so she can’t eat anything off the ground properly it has to be right under her in a bowl.
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 10, 2018 17:23:48 GMT -5
Spoiled. Seriously though, I know that it could be possibly a sign of coccidia when a chicken looks at food and kind of pecks at the food but wont eat it. Strange that she eats when hand fed though. Given her condition, it wouldnt hurt to give her a round of corid. I am seriously going to run out and treat the water for cocci. I was wondering Thanks! She is not taking any food from my hand or bread on the ground-maybe a piece now. So she looks but doesn't eat . |
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 10, 2018 18:23:24 GMT -5
Okay, thanks! That's a lot of tips . Anorexia is like her behavior I think. I put the Corid out. Tomorrow everyone else will get some dosing.
ME , Dawg, and many including you have gathered a wealth of knowledge along the chicken path. It's "oldheimer's" that prevents a lot of info being passed along or remembered, LOL
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Post by dawg53 on Sept 11, 2018 5:26:48 GMT -5
Okay, thanks! That's a lot of tips . Anorexia is like her behavior I think. I put the Corid out. Tomorrow everyone else will get some dosing. ME , Dawg, and many including you have gathered a wealth of knowledge along the chicken path. It's "oldheimer's" that prevents a lot of info being passed along or remembered, LOL Speaking of "oldheimer's" lol, I have written quite a few pages of notes in the early years of chicken keeping so I could remember them in my older years of chicken keeping. Unfortunately some are dosages and withdrawal periods for antibiotics that are no longer sold...thanks to our wonderful FDA. Grrrr. I wrote down a lot of other good stuff as well. I'll have to go through them one of these days. Below is an example (salmon for vitamin D deficiency, for calcium absorption,) see, I remembered THAT! Hahaha.  Right now my new EE is laying soft shell eggs and eggs without shells. Oyster shell is available free choice. I'm going to cage her this morning and mix canned salmon in her feed to eat. I remember salmon from my notes as having high content in vitamin D for calcium absorption and the salmon also contains calcium. Low fat yogurt is high in calcium also. A few days on this diet, my EE should be laying normal eggs. Only a few days is recommended due to the high salt content in canned salmon. I'll let everyone know how it turns out.  |
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 11, 2018 10:34:53 GMT -5
It would be cheaper to get some calcium/vit D vitamins thru amazon. Like I did. I'm supposed to take calcium so the med I'm on doesn't deplete all my calcium and kill me!
I have a hen who's always laid soft eggs. They are the ones that get broken and stepped on. I also have Hannah who never laid a true egg. It's always been really small, soft, or shell less, and takes her a whole day or two to lay. So I keep an eye on Princess Hannah.
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 13, 2018 21:35:50 GMT -5
She is still not eating. Takes a bite then stares at the food. So today she got the treatment. She's a Houdan. She got the feathers cut around her eyes so she can see everything now-guaranteed!. She gets Corid in her water. She got a 50 ml feeding of Ensure. I gave her an IM shot of Tylan and wormed her. I can't do anymore than that.
One thing that concerns me is that her left iris appears like the black is "bleeding" into the outer border. Like Marek's. She's about 4-5 years old . I named her Cleopatra. I don't know why.
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Post by maryellen on Sept 14, 2018 7:06:11 GMT -5
Could she have been pecked in the eye to cause that?.
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 14, 2018 11:48:46 GMT -5
No, I've seen it before in "Marek's" exposed birds. Sometimes it's an oval pupil.
Well if this all don't work it's out of my hands. Sometimes I think that they get a blockage further down past their crop and it's something you can't see or feel.
Her poop looks normal so she's not at the "green" stage yet. And she acts very normal.
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Post by maryellen on Sept 15, 2018 12:00:54 GMT -5
My 55 is now blind in the other eye:(
Ill be bringing her in before winter hits to stay in the house for winter. 10 yrs old
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 15, 2018 13:41:16 GMT -5
Thanks for keeping up with me, ME. Your blind girl may like a small pen with the food and water in the same place and maybe having a buddy.
So, mine is still not eating last night. I go to give her the 2nd shot of Tylan. She's been lame since. I don't know if I hit a nerve or something. She fell of her perch last night (18 inches high) I went back out and put her back. Then I went out again, and gave her a 50cc feeding of ensure.
Today I gave her cookies and she ate 6 cookies like a vulture. I then made her French toast (bread soaked in an egg and milk and cooked) , cut it up and she wolfed that down. That will save me a tube feeding. I just want her to get some calories.
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Post by maryellen on Sept 15, 2018 14:38:53 GMT -5
Im trying to keep up with you lol!
Gwen the silkie might work, but now that she is healthy she doesnt hang with 55 anymore. . The small rabbit cage is good for 1 hen , so she will bulk up during the winter with the food all to herself . I keep the 2 food dishes in the same spot so she can find them, but i see she misses more then she gets:(.
Right now she is managing good, but im keeping a close eye on her. In the other coop her sister is still a terror lol.. both are 10 yrs old.
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Post by maryellen on Sept 15, 2018 14:39:09 GMT -5
Maybe she prefers people food lol
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 15, 2018 19:48:55 GMT -5
Could be. I use a wet mash or like today, my patient got real French toast. She GOBBLED it down along with 10 other cookies and looking for more. She saved herself a tube feeding.
She's limping and curling her toes sometimes. I hope it wears off. I must have hit something with that injection.
So I just ordered powder Tylan and Powder Sulfadimethoxine on Ebay. I'd rather use powder even if I have to mix it into a tube feeding.
Meanwhile, Cleo's sister Psycho started to crow!
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Post by maryellen on Sept 16, 2018 5:53:53 GMT -5
Get her poly visol no iron and vitamin e and selenium. The curling of toes is vitamin deficiency from not eating her layer food. .
The poly visol is i the child section of meds and amazon. The vit e and selenium is at tractor supply and amazon in the meds for goats section.
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Post by seminolewind on Sept 16, 2018 12:10:37 GMT -5
Thankyou!!!!! I will do that.
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Post by maryellen on Sept 16, 2018 14:17:35 GMT -5
Usually curled foot means vitamin deficiency from not eating
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